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Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 15:11 UTC (Tue) by trasz (guest, #45786)In reply to: Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X by mjthayer
Parent article: QA with Matt Asay: How Linux is Beating Apple and Much More (Linux.com)
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 16:28 UTC (Tue) by mjthayer (guest, #39183) [Link]
Not just because of those things. I just have the feeling that Linux is closing in in manyareas, including graphics archetecture and power management. At some point it won't make
sense for Apple to invest in OS X, which they rewrite in a pretty major way at regular
intervals. That point is not here yet, but I no longer think it is that distant either.
And please note that I compared OS X package management to Windows. On Windows, on
the whole, you can uninstall things that you have installed. Yes, I know what you will answer
to that, but how do you install the average (native) OS X application even that far without
application-specific instructions?
Reasons why I like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 17:05 UTC (Tue) by mosfet (guest, #45339) [Link]
OS X is not a rewrite. It's NextStep + Mach + FreeBSD between the two. On top there is a huge ObjC framework. I doubt they will ever rewrite everything. Best example: The iPhone OS. Only thing that was needed was a bit of cherry picking from OS X below Cocoa and a new 'Cocoa Touch' to comfort multi touch and very small display size.Installation instructions for a native OS X Application: Move the Icon anywhere you want it. Maybe to 'Programs', in that case you need super user rights.
Instructions for removing a native Application: Drop it onto the recycle bin.
If the native Application is well behaved, it contains all necessary binaries for x86-64 i386 and ppc and runs everywhere.
The other way works too: I use a home banking application that is still ppc only, but it just works with 10.6.2 x86-64, even the AppleScript bindings.
Reasons why I like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 17:35 UTC (Tue) by mjthayer (guest, #39183) [Link]
> OS X is not a rewrite.They do change masses of stuff between each release though. I know first hand that the
effort of making a certain large close-to-the-system application work with successive
Parent article: QA with Matt Asay: How Linux is Beating Apple and Much More (Linux.com)
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 16:28 UTC (Tue) by mjthayer (guest, #39183) [Link]
Not just because of those things. I just have the feeling that Linux is closing in in manyareas, including graphics archetecture and power management. At some point it won't make
sense for Apple to invest in OS X, which they rewrite in a pretty major way at regular
intervals. That point is not here yet, but I no longer think it is that distant either.
And please note that I compared OS X package management to Windows. On Windows, on
the whole, you can uninstall things that you have installed. Yes, I know what you will answer
to that, but how do you install the average (native) OS X application even that far without
application-specific instructions?
Reasons why I like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 17:05 UTC (Tue) by mosfet (guest, #45339) [Link]
OS X is not a rewrite. It's NextStep + Mach + FreeBSD between the two. On top there is a huge ObjC framework. I doubt they will ever rewrite everything. Best example: The iPhone OS. Only thing that was needed was a bit of cherry picking from OS X below Cocoa and a new 'Cocoa Touch' to comfort multi touch and very small display size.Installation instructions for a native OS X Application: Move the Icon anywhere you want it. Maybe to 'Programs', in that case you need super user rights.
Instructions for removing a native Application: Drop it onto the recycle bin.
If the native Application is well behaved, it contains all necessary binaries for x86-64 i386 and ppc and runs everywhere.
The other way works too: I use a home banking application that is still ppc only, but it just works with 10.6.2 x86-64, even the AppleScript bindings.
Reasons why I like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 17:35 UTC (Tue) by mjthayer (guest, #39183) [Link]
> OS X is not a rewrite.They do change masses of stuff between each release though. I know first hand that the
effort of making a certain large close-to-the-system application work with successive
versions of OS X is considerably greater than the work required to keep it working with
successive versions of all the major GNU/Linux distributions. Think Carbon/Cocoa, or the
changes in recent versions to migrate to 64bits. And saying that Xnu is just Mach + FreeBSD
is rather simplifying matters as far as I know.
> Instructions for removing a native Application: Drop it onto the recycle bin.
If only there were not so many applications that didn't work that way! Those that do are one
of the things I admire most about OS X.
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 19:13 UTC (Tue) by trasz (guest, #45786) [Link]
To be honest, I don't see Linux closing to anything when it comes to desktop. Situation is still pretty much the same as it was ten years ago - many devices don't quite work (except then it was sound cards, and now it's suspend). Meanwhile, OSX:1. Works.
2. Apple doesn't have to fight with people about development decisions, which, in Linux' case, often leads to reinventing the wheel every few years (e.g. devfs or HAL).
3. There is stable API and ABI for drivers.
Also, Apple would still have to invest in OSX, in the same way e.g. Google does it - they would have to maintain their own codebase, backporting things from Linus' kernel in order to keep it working and avoid regressions.
Notice, btw, that the trend to replace own systems with Linux seems to have stopped - IBM is again pushing AIX, and Sun^WOracle says it will work on Solaris even harder than before.
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As for installing OSX applications - usually you just open a 'folder' (actually, a filesystem image that mounts itself when you click it) and drag application over the 'Applications' shortcut. To uninstall, you go to the Applications folder and remove the application icon. No instructions neccessary.
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 17, 2010 0:46 UTC (Wed) by njs (guest, #40338) [Link]
> Situation is still pretty much the same as it was ten years ago - many devices don't quite work (except then it was sound cards, and now it's suspend).Obviously these things change over time, and hardware is diverse and any one story doesn't mean much.
But still, at some point last year I was shocked to discover that of everyone in my lab, I had the only laptop where both (1) suspend, and (2) redirecting my screen to external VGA, were working smoothly and trouble free. I'm the only one running Linux (with Intel parts, of course). (They together had something like 3 apples and 2 windows, IIRC).
I guess multi-touch is our next game of catch-up...
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
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Posted Mar 17, 2010 4:37 UTC (Wed) by AndreE (guest, #60148) [Link]
1) Not always, not for everyone2) Well that's the nature of closed source development. Who says they don't
argue amongst themselves and who knows what impact this has
3) Are we going to start the stable API flamewar again?
As for installing applications:
- not all applications are this easy. Try apps that package shared libraries
- how do you update applications? *nix package management craps all over
Windows and OSX app updates
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Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 17, 2010 8:46 UTC (Wed) by mjthayer (guest, #39183) [Link]
compatibility layers), but I hear from colleagues who work with OS X that making software
work with new releases is always a major development effort. Can anyone else comment?
Reasons why I don't like Mac OS X
Posted Mar 16, 2010 22:19 UTC (Tue) by rqosa (subscriber, #24136) [Link]
> can track dependencies for packages (whichis not required for native OSX applications)
It's not 'required' for Linux applications either. (Compile libraries instatically, or put libraries in a directory in /opt and set RUNPATH /RPATH.) However, it's better to have a package manager,regardless of the operating system, because:
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- Without dependency resolution, apps must include their own privatecopies of libraries. If one of those libraries has a security vulnerability,then all the apps are vulnerable. Thishas happenedbefore.
- Without automatic updating, each app must provide it's own mechanism fordelivering updates, or else put the burden of checking for updates(including security updates) on the user.
